The 3W Podcast
From the people that bring you 3W Magazine, welcome to the 3W Podcast! We aim to serve our community by promoting awareness of Northwest Arkansas’ thriving philanthropic movement; To provide a guide of dates to help coordinate events so every nonprofit gets the coverage they need and deserve; To give financially to local charities each year.
The 3W Podcast
The 3W Podcast: Tina Winham
Join me as I sit down with my dear friend, Tina Winham, to reminisce about our journey of friendship and shared commitment to community involvement in Northwest Arkansas. From our initial meeting through the Junior League of Northwest Arkansas to our collaborative efforts in Women With a Mission, we share heartwarming stories of our nonprofit projects. We'll also explore the transformation of Bentonville from a quaint town to a vibrant community hub, all through the lens of Tina’s deep roots and dedication to charity work.
Our conversation reveals the unexpected connections between household names like Conair and Cuisinart, illustrating the innovative spirit within the beauty and kitchen appliance industries. We shift gears to bring you the latest trends in fashion and beauty, from runway spectacles to groundbreaking hair and beauty tools, ensuring you’re in the know about the hottest styles and innovations.
We dive into the rewarding yet challenging experiences of serving on the board of the Northwest Arkansas Women's Shelter and the importance of supporting pet sanctuaries for families fleeing abuse. Reflecting on the essence of experiences over material possessions, we share our love for social media as a tool for connection and the joy of creating lasting memories through community events. Don't miss this heartfelt and inspiring conversation filled with gratitude, community spirit, and the power of enduring friendships.
Hey everyone, welcome to the 3W podcast. I'm Kasey Yokely, as always, but I've got my dear friend here, tina Winnow. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited you're joining me. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Yes, so Tina has lots of accolades, all the things, but currently today she sits here. She is with Conair, yes, okay, but first, how did we meet? So, junior League, junior League it was a long time. I don't really like 100 about this. And then also women with a mission, because we were on the initial start of the giving circle with linda phillips. Yes, we, yes, and we do all things that linda says. All things, all things. Yes, for linda, uh-huh, yes, I actually I don't think there's a thing that linda hasn't has asked me to do that I've said no to. Well, I, I have followed her to every nonprofit she has been out. And then I'm like, do we still work in the retirement? I think we do. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, we should go on trips with her and Joe. This is our year, yeah, so Junior League, okay.
Speaker 1:So I moved here in 06 and I joined Junior League in Tulsa. So I affiliated like it's a sorority or whatever. So when did you start in Junior League? So I probably was like jumping into it in fall, maybe a little bit before you, okay, but I don't remember the exact year, but I think a little bit before you, okay. And then I was quickly put on a committee with your dear fraud leela, touch a track, the very first touch a track, yes, I ironically proud to say that is still going on. Yes, it sure is. Which is so, yeah, okay, so you think is okay. And junior league wow, I mean, can you they go? No, those are the two that came to mind. And then fast friends, and then non-profits yes, and all the vendor world yes, and all the events yes. So that's probably how y'all know tina, because tina is always pageant, waving at all my guys around town more than me, no, not more than 100, but more than me.
Speaker 1:I think we have a similar heart for giving, absolutely, because you were a champion of charity or whatever we called it back in the dark ages, in the early 3W days. Yes, that was one of my favorite things. You were like a leather dress in your photo shoot. I remember thinking that was like the biggest honor and it was just so cool to be a part of that. I think I still love that, and now we've changed it to leading ladies and I was actually like making it and working on the list for 25. And I'm like how soon is too soon to bring it back in, because you are a leading lady, you are a champion of charity in Northwest Arkansas. We're going to dive deeper into that. But I think you have a servant. I think I do too. I think I do too and I strive for that, but I think that's what we have in common. I love that and you're a native.
Speaker 1:Yes To Benton County. Yes, which is a gravid otter around here? I was working on this not very long ago to try to see how just working on how long my family has been in Arkansas and I was able to trace it back. So I'm a fourth generation Arkansan, which makes Lexi a fifth generation. So we've been here a long time and I've just been very fortunate and I've never had to leave Northwest Arkansas. How odd is that? I think that it's definitely odd, because it's very, very few times I run into people here that are actually from here, so I think it's rare, especially in this space.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, so I had coffee this morning with a dear friend from who's in the nonprofit world. But she's actually from Fort Smith and we were talking about the Fort Smith stereotype and all the things. And she's like you got to remember, back in the day Fort Smith was a big city and then, like Rogers and Bentonville were like country. Yes, back in the 80s, yeah, she was like you did not come up here. You like came to Fort Smith to do the things that you needed to do, that's so true. And I was like, oh, I mean, I didn't know that. She's like, yeah, little Rock and Fort Smith, this up here was just country. Yes, I remember I didn't know anything. We would say we needed to go to town and that was a bit. And now I'd say it's not really a tip, although it still has a feel of the town, but yeah, it's very fancy. But when I moved here, they're like oh, it's on the square and I'm like what's a square? I didn't know what a square was. So now I love the square. Then I'm like everybody has these squares, like registered the whole art square. But I'm like they kind of have their rows and I'm like and then Springdale's got their little square and I'm like y'all got squares over here. It's so great, I love it. It's so funny.
Speaker 1:I kind of wonder what will happen in Rogers, you know, since the tornado and they're going to rework things. I wonder what. The downtown area I know it's weird, yeah, wild to drive down there now like um. So my youngest goes to school and on the edge of downtown Rogers and I haven't made that drive in a couple of months and I had to make it recently and I was like the landscape is wildly different, it's heartbreakingly different, but they're going to come back bigger. It's heartbreakingly. And I had to make it recently and I was like the landscape is wildly different, it's heartbreakingly different, but they're going to come back bigger. It is heartbreakingly different. I do love that. They're leveraging this as an opportunity, absolutely, completely.
Speaker 1:Do, potentially, a facelift, yes, and just change the trajectory Right. Yeah, exactly, I love that. I love creating that. I think that's really cool. So creating that, I think that's really cool, so grab it. Yes, that where the like funky hardware store is. So I haven't been there, but I okay, because there's like candy and yeah, I've already definitely amazing about it and my mom still lives there and so I should make an effort to do that when I see her, but I haven't done it, but I've cut it. It's like super funky and cool and different thing. Yeah, yeah, there's really no word.
Speaker 1:I like where I now, which is close to where we are at this moment, I have found myself not leaving. Do you not leave your radio? You're like, oh my gosh, that's a cross town. I cannot possibly do it. But it's so funny because growing up in Gravia you'd go to town in Biddenville. That was a solid 20 minutes. And then going to Fayetteville to the mall at the time oh, that's a dead track. Yeah, it's like a day trip. Now it's a major inconvenience if I have to go 15 minutes. It's like I got to plan for it. It is. It's insane. So I was telling you about a girlfriend who's going to be on the podcast real soon and she's down in Fayetteville and she's like plans everything around if she has to make the trek to Canada. Which messes Canada. That's so good. I love that. That's so funny. Yeah, I do tease my friends that live in Fayetteville like if they need to do a layover on the way out, oh, I gotta do like a little stop off to.
Speaker 1:You're like driving square up and betting no layout exactly. Go ahead and drive on in the morning, you know, would stay like pampered yes, real pampered. Know, when it's daylight Pampered? Yes, real pampered. Yes, exactly. So it's insane how things have changed. Yeah, how about how? Yeah, you've seen it really grow up yes, not grow up, explode For sure. Like all of this was pasture, like it's insane. Crazy to me, that is crazy.
Speaker 1:And then you didn't leave, no, and you just continued to crush it. Okay, yes, so Con Air. Yes, a couple years. Yeah, two and a half years. Okay, I'm going to have to iterate. It's been amazing.
Speaker 1:I love the beauty space. It's so fun. Okay, well, it's way down in my list of things to talk about, but you're such a girly girl For you to go to Conair. I was like that is so fitting, like all the things. I thought the same thing too, because my career path was completely different.
Speaker 1:And when I had an opportunity to come to Conair and be in PD, I was like how have I not been in PD? How have you not been there? I love it, I love all of the things that and a lot of it goes back to like self-confidence and just helping women believe in themselves. But I love it, and so I don't know how I wasn't in the space, like for now, but I'm in a walmart right the left side is your. Well, at least in, like our walmart surround here, like the left side is yours. Yes, I mean, it's like that's where you take care of your insides and then get to beauty for even yes, exactly, it's so fun, that's where you were destined to be.
Speaker 1:I won feel like I no longer go to the right, no more for groceries. Who needs the knockover in here, just when he can find it to be? But I go over here, exactly. Okay, so let's stop it. Let's just dive down into Con Air, even though we're going to skip some stuff, because we'll come back to, like Servant's Heart. But Con Air, like all the details let's talk about.
Speaker 1:Okay, first of all, let's educate people, because Conair which I did not know, so I will throw myself right under that bus Cuisinart, oh my gosh, that is like a surprise, I think, for everyone. It totally is, because when I say well, conair owns Cuisinart, and everybody's like what I mean hair and blenders don't go together. It's funny, yeah, one would think I don't know the history of the particular acquisition, of when we acquired Cuisinart, but it is interesting, it's fun for me. Do you even know, because I could not find. You may know what the word even means. Yes, oh, this is the legend.
Speaker 1:Okay, so, in full transparency, have not have it, had it confirmed, but what I've been told is I love that story because I do leave rosito that started the company. He uh, invented the blow dryer, basically, and the blow dryer is conditioned air and so con air came from that and then just exploded and went into a lot of other things. But that is the story that I've been told. I like that because that was nowhere to find that information Once I heard that conditioned air like con air. Okay, now I get it because I had assumed when I was interviewing that it was more around a person's name or something that was close and near and dear to their heart. But I think this actually is more plausible. Wow, but it has not been. I feel like a mind blown emoji Like conditioned air. So he invented the hairdryer, kind of. Yes, I did not find that in my search history either.
Speaker 1:One of the, my understanding, is one of the first ones that you could actually um, like, take with you. You didn't have to be in a beauty salon and actually the big on the go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, I didn't know that. I mean, clearly there could be somebody listening that wants to disagree with them. That's okay, but I like it. Yeah, no, I like it too, but that's the-. I like, let's stick with that. Yeah, let's stick with that. Oh, my gosh, I'm like Disputes, yeah, and like 19 something.
Speaker 1:Internally, they always just say leave risotto. Oh, leave risotto. Yeah, and he sold his cadillac to fund the company. Did you know that? No, I didn't. I don't think that's, or his family did, or something like this. And I was like, well, that is I don't know. It was just like we're gonna sell the cadillac and we're all done on.
Speaker 1:This manufacturing situation kind of makes you think about what you own today, that you know, wow, what could I barter for? Yes, start, I don't know, yeah, exactly. And now it's so divested or divested, I'm probably just butchered that whatever. Um, like you've got cuisinart, you've got conair, how do you say this? I say baby list.
Speaker 1:Now, when I pull up the website, I does not. I say babblis, babblis. I have heard it said a lot of different ways. Okay, and then, and then scuncy, scuncy, yep, which I always butcher and say scrunchie. Yes, well, I mean because scrunchies are in it. Yes, yes, yes. So I'm like, oh, and then wearing, and wearing, yeah, which is would be like Cuisinart, but for professionals. Okay, yes, okay.
Speaker 1:And then, but let's go back to Skuncey, because I feel like that's what you have put in 3W for several years yes, influencer, partnerships, et cetera. So Skuncey is all about fashion, so it's all about fun, and so it's been really cool to work with her. Her Walmart all about fashion, so it's all about fun, and so it's been really cool to work with her mom radio I love it and spent like a walmart in their, a new I shouldn't say new, but their trajectory in terms of bringing elevated fashion to the shopper, like scunsey, is exactly that right, and so we've been able to work on this word what are, I don't know. Oh, okay, I don't know. Um, that'll be my next homework project. I should figure out where it came from and what it's, but it's all over at the aisles. Yeah, yeah, it's great. We have a very healthy business around the globe.
Speaker 1:Actually, I'm responsible for the Walmart business and it's been wonderful to work on, like how to elevate fashion. So, basically, when you're watching award shows or you're watching your favorite celebrities or anything of the such, and you see these amazing hairstyles or products in their hair. Like that's what we're working on, like how can we bring that to the everyday shopper at walmart and give them an opportunity to have elevated fashion, but add a value? So it's fun, yeah, so fun, seeing your dollar. Save money, save, save money, save it. I live better, yeah, okay, well, speaking of that elevated fashion, um Scunzi plays big time. Am I saying that right? Okay, I feel like I'm butchering it every time. Nope, they play big time in the community. No, thanks, since, uh, yeah, cheers, we should cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Um, um, yes, so that's something that I've always been passionate about. Uh, with the companies that um I have had the fortune to work with in the past and currently with Conair, is making sure that we show up for our community, um, and so it's been fun to be able to leverage that and see how we can support our Walmart partners, but do it in a, in a fun way in our community.
Speaker 1:So that fashion week is how that shows up. I remember I had literally probably had just been on um, had just started with Conair, maybe 30 days in, and I immediately called Robin, the CEO, oh, who has taken fashion week to the next level, yes, who just love her. And it was like Robin, like I'm with Conair, we have all. I was going through the spiel and I'm like this needs to be a part of fashion week. We gotta figure this out. Like, what can we do?
Speaker 1:Because hair is fashion, yes, and so, historically, fashion week and rightfully so has always been about the designers and the clothing, absolutely, and sometimes cosmetics and beauty in that space. But it's like hair too is art, hair too is a statement and it's very much beauty. And she was so gracious and and was like, okay, let's figure this out. And we did, and so we've been a strong partner for the last.
Speaker 1:Well, since I've been here, yeah, and up years, and it's been, it's been marked down the runway, yes, and I love it. I love it, yeah, so fun. It's something that I really look forward to being a part of and and being on like I'm Brett wrote every single show, just like all smiles, just watching these designers bring this wonderful fashion down the aisle, but then also like I'm frantically taking pictures of hair, absolutely, because it's amazing to see what the hair designers that are working with the designers to bring their yes, yes, and how they bring hair into a really art, how they make it. Yeah, it's like a re with, like a constant reinvention, yes, yes, and so it's so fun, so fun, so it's like something that's been great. And then we get all the clips and all the things like I personally benefit from yes, your, uh, partnerships with nonprofits, from goodie bags yes, I'm always leaving. I love these low products. Being able to put some of our new innovation or new product into swag bags. It's just fun, okay. Well, speaking of what is the big thing for fall bows we're still on bows. We're still on bows. Oh, okay, yeah, lots of, but I think bows will probably carry us through the holidays, to be honest. Okay, so there might be different, um, iterations of what that looks like, but bows are still very hot.
Speaker 1:I was just in paris a couple weeks ago and was also I love people watching in June, right, and was being able to say I know it is, I wish I could get paid to be hot, I know, right. So I went to a concert and I was like I went to the Tate McCray concert at the AMP, yes, and it was amazing. People watching, I bet Junior high kids I bet it was amazing. It people watching junior high kids I bet it was amazing, so something.
Speaker 1:But bows are still still big and then so everybody has their own take on them. So it's interesting to see how it comes to life in a hairstyle. But I feel like they're simple, yes, and elegant, and so a lot of, instead of the like the cheap bow yes, yes, incredibly different. Or like the baby bow, like I didn't have a girl yes, girl will touch on that, but I'm like I always wanted a girl. So I, yes, yes, oh, I know Freaking band on her and all the bows Can't even imagine I didn't get that, but that's okay. I was going on bows, so. But I'm like this you can do a simple pony and just add a bow. You can do your hair down and add a bow. It's just these little touches I think that are just so cool.
Speaker 1:But that's what's happening right now, and then we do a lot of work in trends, like seeing what colors and fabrications and things like that that are coming, and so we have a lot of exciting things that you'll get to see in 25th. What's the big color for fall or holiday? It's interesting. Holiday, pretty standard Holiday, I would say, somewhat standard. It's always jewel tones for the most part with, I would say, inflections of gold and silver in some way. What does change is the application meaning, like, sometimes it's more velvet, sometimes it's more sparkly, sometimes it's more subdued. It can kind of depend, like satin, it can depend on what's happening at the moment in fashion, but it almost always is some form of a jewel tone. Right, and then just traditional fall colors for us to defend.
Speaker 1:Okay, any 25 stuff you want to tease or no, I don't know if I can. Okay, then we'll just keep the lid on that. Okay, but we're working a lot of cool stuff and and, uh, it makes us for everything to launch in spring at 25. Oh my say, yeah, okay, how about tools? Tools, because I just got the best hair dryer from you a couple months ago, yes, and I gotta go buy one um in a week or two for my mother-in-law because she loves it, and I can get it at Walmart. So, double. I know I think my counterpart actually manages tools and she has done a fabulous job at being able to help bring technology and innovation into Walmart, which is fabulous. Yeah, but the blow dryer that you're talking about is amazing. It's like lightweight, it'd be like a Dyson dupe yeah, like it's just so cool. It is great, and that I mean much more affordable price, yes, and very accessible. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh gosh, so you were specifically on Skentsy, is that correct? And Conair and Conair, but Conair more on the brushes and grooming and cosmetic bags. Oh, let's talk about those. Yeah, so the way I think we're set up in different divisions, um, and so my division is responsible for all things hair, but nothing that is that requires power. That might be the oh, okay, okay, um, but yeah, trying toing brushes then, yeah, so we do, we have lots of, actually, we have a really healthy business on brushes. It's great, so, and those are all branded Conair.
Speaker 1:And then we have cosmetic bags and they have multiple. There are several brands. Oh well, that is like a whole wild world right now. I know what I feel like. Yeah, all the like I'm going to butcher it A-M-S-R-A-S-M-R, the like packing and the unpacking and all the whatever, and I'm like it's all about the container, the product is in and the clippity clap and then that bag, it goes in. Yes, yes. So that must be unexpected and crazy right now for y'all. Yeah, it is, and I think there's a lot of opportunity to where fashion is, has been, but continues to move quicker into things like cosmetic bags. So a lot of what you're saying on runways will translate to cosmetic bag, yeah or not. So it's cool, it is.
Speaker 1:I love that I don't tie you the hair accessory. I know it's so fun. I know I mean your face kind of lights up, it's fun, it is. I love this for you. I just I'm like, oh, when I found I know I mean your face kind of lights up, it's fun, it is. I love this for you. I just I'm like, oh, when I found out you were there, I was like, oh, this is like the best for you. I love this. Maybe a little bit more fun than water sometimes. Yeah, more floaty, yeah, more fun.
Speaker 1:Okay, now let's touch on you. So U of so, ufa, yes. And then you went back recently. You got your master's. Yes, mba, yes, okay, because you got a fabulous gucci bag for graduation. Yes, I love that. I would actually consider going back to have a gift like that, like what? It's funny because I am definitely a lifelong learner, so I would not put it past I to think about another. You're like another degree, I need another master's, or just go get your PhD so we can call you. Yes, I would love that.
Speaker 1:Okay, married, yes, to Jeff, and then one daughter, yeah, right, enjoy, yes, 24, yes, and you know what I think is so fun is because I've known you for so long, so she was real little. Well, what, how, what year was she born? Because I don't do math 20, 20, yes, she's 24, yes, okay, see again, don't do that. Said 20, we need to cut. That's 2000, 2020. I was tracking about that. Exactly. She's more than 20. Yeah, exactly. So she is opposite of benjamin biden 2000, 2007. But I was right there. I was just looking at the first two numbers, the first two numbers. Oh, my god, I love that.
Speaker 1:Now I'm like what, what in the world do you think? My train of thought was who even knows? Okay, so I moved here in 06 so she would have been, you know, six or seven when I met you and to follow her along on your social media, like to watch her go to haas and graduate, and then she's gone to college and went to sorority and got a great degree, I feel like in business, um, actually in apparel studies. Okay, I made that up and then, yeah, this is what I do. I take all the things off.
Speaker 1:I think that's lovely and it's she works for a business that goes well, yes, yes, but it's, and she walked in fashion week multiple years, which I think is kind of like full circle, like y'all has paths. That's what that's where I'm getting. They're overlapping, and I think it's crazy and awesome and unique and just all the things, because unless it's like a family business, most generations don't work together and that's. I think it's kind of cool. I hadn't really thought about that, but that is so true. Yes, well, I, I think it like dawned on me when I saw a post, or maybe you shared it I don't even know because I'm not friends with her on social media, because that would be weird, she doesn't know me, but like weird stalker. But she was sharing something at a Walmart meeting.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I'm like, oh my gosh, like in the fashion, like a swimsuit or something. I feel like she's an associate merchant and swimsuits, okay, yeah, and I'm like, and we always need a scrunchie for our, I know, right with the swimsuit. Yes, and I'm like your worlds I don't know if they really are overlapping or if it's just in my head to make them over like. That's why I'm like, okay, this swimsuit totally needs some hair matching hair products, absolutely like we need to, that we could do a cosmetic bag in that same print, like we need to the whole thing, exactly like this person needs to all of it. And then he should work with a towel vendor and like have a matching towel. And then, yes, and she's always like I think I got this, just some ideas, just feel free to poke it in. I hear what you meant, but I love this for y'all. I don't know if she loves it as much as like you, and I do Exactly, or I love this for you, but I do love it.
Speaker 1:As said, well, I think you're a complete badass anyway. So I think the same to you. Oh, so sweet, but I don't believe you. I believe you. I just don't believe that. But that's OK. But I'm like you are someone I've always looked up to for years. You're never, not, never, not working, never, not learning, never, not all the things and investing and serving. So I'm like she has such an amazing role model to learn from and I think that is so neat that y'all can like overlap, and I know I've seen her like at a next step event or whatever which you're super involved in and we'll touch on, but I'm like, oh my, I just think that is crazy. You don't look like you should have a 24 year old that either. We're like, thank you. Very close in age, only two years apart, and yet I have a 10 year old. So it's just, I'm still carpooling and you're like having happy hour with her. Your days are coming, yes, but I love this for the two of you. I just want that is so.
Speaker 1:It was fun at a fashion week this year because robin did a whole collection with walmart that was on swim, and so being able to be there with her in the seat like I'm looking at all the hair, um, and definitely documenting what's happening there, and then her face just totally lights up as swimsuits walk down the aisle from Walmart Like it's on pride yes, it was just so cool to see like her you got to watch that. Yes, that was just cool to see her like what she had been working on in her vision, like literally come to life on a runway. So it was cool. Oh, that's not normal, I know, I know. I know she should be really proud. I hope she is proud of herself. I'm proud of her. I love this.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, well, next up, yes, okay, so many, and so I have that written down. So many accolades and I'm literally I don't even know if I should mention them because I will probably leave some out, so I'm not going. I feel like you're just rolling off as a grand poobah Actually rolling in, so I make that up. Okay, it gets very confusing. Executive chair. Next year I'll be the chair. Oh, the chair. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:Lila was a grand poobah. Yes, yes, okay, I'm just trying to follow Lila's footsteps For sure, they're really good for y'all. Exactly, follow it, exactly, not gonna lie. Um, okay, yes, but you've held so many different positions in so many different. Yes, non-profit. Well, you did share a circle of red. Yes, for the american heart association. So maybe that's what I'm confusing it with. But, um, yeah, so what committee are you on for next step? What did you just say? You're all of it. Oh, okay, yeah, battling, yeah, you, you name it and I should be helping in some way. So it's really what? It's not very okay. So who's the grand poobah for this year? Is it Kimberly McGee? Oh, it's Kimberly. And then Allie comes. Allison Van Mater comes up next year as the co-owner. Yeah, and Kimberlyee Were you all duos and something? We both served on the Junior League board together.
Speaker 1:I've known Kimberly forever, so that's been really fun. She's another badass in the community. Yes, I hope I need her on Right. So, like a shout out to her, like, jump in here. Yes, yeah, I do love her.
Speaker 1:She has really great fashion sense. She does. I mean, every time we're on a Zoom call, even just last night, I'm like what are you wearing? Yeah, like this is so cute and she has to stand up on the Zoom call and show me what she's wearing. But I'm just like, I just wonder what her, her house like. She has a room that's a closet and I have to imagine that's entirely filled and where I figure out how to live in a capsule wardrobe, which my friend Lila is excellent at. I don't have that skin and I'm trying to get there and it's super hard and I think Kimberly is in a maximum A really big yes, yes, a huge yeah, exactly. And so, yeah, I think it's pretty amazing. I love it, I love her style. I don't have capsule wardrobe in my skill set. I don't either. I've been trying, but it's good, it's super hard, it does. It's just.
Speaker 1:I like acquisition. I'll do that for everyone else. I love acquisition. I love that. I should get that. I need that. I need that, yes, and I will like it. It, it'll be super fun. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, so next up. So in 25, you're going to be the grand poobah. Is that what? Yes, hearing, okay, yay, you, I know, I'm excited, I know that's kind of awesome, yeah, and then we have an event. No, yes, yeah, women's empowerment. Yes, thank you, because we're in july right now. Well, this will air in august. And then women's empowerment summit is in september. Yes, yes, our biggest event. Anything. Think supporter of that? Not yet, okay, but you will be excited about what we are doing. I think we're going to start sharing in two weeks, okay, but it's going to be good and thank you for all your support.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love this event, definitely Women's Empowerment Summit, because that is our signature event and I feel like the audience that we're able to attract. I mean, it's just such a wonderful opportunity to have women and men all over the place come to this event and be exposed to the great work that it's been done. It's a very inspiring morning. I think it's very inspiring too, and it takes place during the LPGA golf tournament, so it's, and having them as a partner is amazing. I know it is kind of fun. We go out to the tournament for like a little snack and a little golf course action, and then Zach and peace on out. I know it's a great day, it is a great day, it was really a good day.
Speaker 1:And then we touched on Junior League and I feel like you've done stuff with the women's shelter way back in the day, with the women's shelter way back in the day, and then we both serve on mercy's women with a mission, and then we always follow linda to the children's shelter, all the places. And now retirement, and now retirement, we're gonna go on vacation with her. Yes, exactly. And then, oh, lots of fancy things. I think, um, like leadership stuff, leadership arkansas am I butchering that? No, that's correct. Oh, okay, yeah, I love it Like the coolest year in literal.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it was so fun. So I had done leadership Benton County several years ago. So for anyone that's interested, it's like amazing because it gives you an opportunity to learn about the community and actually it's the full county, so you get to see it from different angles from an education perspective, from what's happening in the nonprofit space, from the big businesses that are here, what they're doing, and just the community in its entirety. For I think it's roughly like nine months and then Leadership. Arkansas is the same idea, but it's for the whole state and so it was so cool. So you'd go to different parts of the state and I'm from here, like we just discovered earlier, yes, yeah, that I'm a fourth generation arkansan and and hadn't, did not have any idea of certain parts of the state that I just had never been to, I mean, outside of little rock. Um, it was so cool to learn, like, the neat stuff that we have here in arkansas. See, I think everybody should be educated on that.
Speaker 1:Yes, because I'm like I don't highly recommend it whenever someone says, well, when I first I shouldn't even say first, like within the first 10 years I lived here someone say something like, yes, a title, and I'm like, is that a street, is it a county or is it a town? Yes, like, give me a frame of reference, because a lot of people talk in counties around it, like four counties, and I'm like, what city is in that county that I might have heard on the news. They're like Sebastian or Carol and I'm like, don't know, give me a city. Well, handle they work regionally, right to like, handle usually the four, some four counties, and I'm like just need a town. That is so funny because my VP was here, who's amazing. I couldn't work for a better leader than what I have right now. Um, she was here and it was during like tornado stuff and she was like it is not helpful.
Speaker 1:The alerts are going off and they're talking about biden county. I have no idea where I am. I don't know where I am. We're gonna do this on stream. Yeah, where is it exactly? Thank you, like you know, I've never thought about that, but it's always like what's happening in the counties and if you're here, brand new here, or you're traveling here, you have no idea. No idea, no, I know normally, but going back to the tornadoes in May, so I'm not normally worried about them. I'm from Oklahoma, like that is. We're just used to those wizard of oz and I was um in the joplin tornado in 11. So I'm like and fine, like they scare me now after joplin, but, yes, before that, I'm like you go outside and look at them when you're in oklahoma.
Speaker 1:So when that one was coming through, I remember it going off and it, you know big county, benton County, whatever, but I'm like it's not the tiniest, so I'm like whatever. But they set a school right around the corner from us and I was like, oh, okay, I took that one seriously. I was like, okay, I know where that is. So okay, and thank goodness my oldest had just gone to that school. Otherwise, being because my kids were in Catholic school, I didn't know where all the schools were until this year, so really it wouldn't have mattered a year ago. So I was like, oh, I know where that school is. That's real close. We've headed to that school. So everybody get down. We should probably go to a safe space. Streets are so funny Landmarks.
Speaker 1:People just need to get landmarks for everyone that's traveling. I love landmarks. I love landmarks for driving directions. Jeff, talk to you in north, south, east and west. I'm losing heart. I don't know. Do I do it or do I not? Exactly? I have never been good at that. Now, north, I know north and south. You get me on East and West. I really have to look up and find the sun. Yes, I do too. Yes, yes, exactly, I do too. I love that, okay. So, hmm, I like this one. What are your? I feel like I have a pulse on this one for you.
Speaker 1:What are your personal philanthropic pillars? What are Tina's? Tina's all about supporting women and children, so I everything that I do ladders up to that in some way, and it took me a long time to actually get there. So, do you know? Yeah, I do. Okay, actually, because I don't have my own pillars yet For the longest time, and a part of it is because I grew up in a small community and then went to the University of Arkansas and then I realized there was a much bigger world than what I had thought growing up, and so when people had asked me to get involved in things, I was so honored and I was like yes.
Speaker 1:So I said yes to everything, and before I knew it, I had zero time for myself or anything else, because I was yes to everything, and I had to really take a step back and think through okay, what is it that I want to contribute to? What do I want my legacy to be, and how can I make a difference? Instead of being spread so thin, how can I just hone in on the ones that are meaningful to me, and for everyone it's different, so for me it was okay. How can I help women and children be successful and reach their potential? And so, from that point on, anytime I've ever been asked to do something, it's, it's an easy yes no based on that. If it ladders up to support women and children, I'm in.
Speaker 1:If it doesn't, then I'm going to find, like someone else that might be a better fit, based on what their pillars are and what they want to achieve, and so I try not to have like a hard no, right, but I definitely try to redirect to someone that would be a better fit. And also, I don't ever want to be a seat filler, like I want to. I'll be a part, yeah, something, and so it's something that I'm always mindful of. But even you can get really busy. Oh, it's so busy. Yes, I mean, we've been on multiple committees together and so, yes, and committee is not the same as a board, right, correct? There's many different facets of all the things. Okay, so, without naming the nonprofit, because I wouldn't, I don't want to, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1:But what has been the most memorable position? I would say board chair helping a women's shelter, Okay, has been by far the pivotal, like I didn't know, yes, pivotal moment. I'm going to wait for that For me, because it really gave me an opportunity to understand and to think through how to help women and families that are in domestic violence situations be able to see like a brighter future and see a path out, because that is something that most women do not, because they're just in the moment, rightfully so, and so being able to walk alongside and this is a long time ago it was, but that is by far the but I love that it's still. It's still way up there for you like number one. Yes, because I'm like this was years ago for sure because that's like more like the grassroots level, like really helping a particular person see a brighter future and help them. Oh, yes, exactly, and a lot of things that I know for you, too, like a lot of the things that we do is more broad in scale and we know we're helping people, but you may not have like a particular name, right, a person, yeah, particular story, exactly, and so this was a time for me where it was, it was real and it really made me.
Speaker 1:Was it hard? It was super hard. What's the transition? One year, so many books. So I was on the board for 11 years and that's also a long time. Yes, we kept rewriting the biologics. I was like I'm going to figure this out. I really want to do this and the work we were doing was so good. But I think the chair was a one year or two year, I can't remember, but it was meaningful and I really gave it my all. So I read lots of books to try to understand like I learned so much during that time frame, like how your brains work and how you're wired and how like things can happen in your life and if they consistently happen negatively or positively but in this situation negatively you naturally like that path becomes super easy to stay on, and so you have to really work to build out new pathways in your brain, to train it to see things differently or to do something differently to get to a different outcome. That was like fascinating always, and so it was like, yeah, so it was an opportunity to really so.
Speaker 1:Are they in the current place or were they in the like secret, the old secret location? Both started out in the old secret and then towards the end of my tenure. That was one of the moves that we did. We were in the new place. I have not been to the new. I've been to the new place. Let me say that I have not been. I went before it opened. I got like a tour of it before it opened and I was blown away by it. And the level of security and all the things Given is the level of security and the all the things given's not the right word are provided to these families. And I say family because it's not just a no, typically, typically it's families. Yeah, and I was blown away. So you need a family.
Speaker 1:So I toured the peace at home family shelter. Oh, it just how, my god, I just and now. And it has a pet. I was gonna say a pet cemetery, that's not the right word. Sanctuary, how cool is that? I mean, that's like the coolest thing, because that is a hurdle, that I didn't even know, that families that are in those situations, like can you imagine giving your animal? No, so I was at the afp luncheon. It'll be two years. So afp luncheon is always in the fall, like november. I feel like I couldn't making that up. So it'll be two years ago this fall. That no, it wasn't the AFP, I totally made that up. It was the peace at home luncheon in the fall.
Speaker 1:Who the non-profit and the pet thing is for? I'm sorry, but Candy Clark, who it's named after it was at her that luncheon and she's passed away. But her partner, teddy, announced all the things and then she was also honored with the nafp award a month later, posthumously. That's why I get all confused. Anyways, that's where they kicked off fundraising, yes, or something, for this pet sanctuary, and I had no idea that people they had a survivor there, yes, talking about how she couldn't leave unless she got into a place that took an animal. She wouldn't, couldn't leave her abuse, yeah, I think it's a it's a lot to ask someone to leave a situation and leave an animal behind.
Speaker 1:I don't have, um, I guess, thankfully, I've never been in that position and I don't have the mindset, so I'm just like, oh, someone doesn't treat you well, get, get out, like, but that's wrong. Yes, whatever in me and in a lot of us, but, oh my gosh, to think that a pet would keep you in a really wretched situation, right, and now they have this amazing space over these animals. I mean, it's like best friends level, like it's just beautiful. How great is that? And something I would never think of. And so I think it's opening our eyes. Because what if somebody's pillar was pets per se? Because it's a lot of them? Yes, but this is a different avenue. Best friends is great.
Speaker 1:Humane Society, the Ozarks yes, all great, yes, but what if pets is your thing? More avenues for you to give, yes and provide? Yes, yeah, exactly so cool, yeah. And then they had this wall with everybody's pets and that had um given. I'm assuming I was like chewies. Yeah, it was so cool. I mean, it was just like there's so much love that went into that. It was very cool. I love that. Oh, I know that was, uh, very unique. I think so too. Yeah, yeah. So women's shelter Okay, and that's like kind of the women's shelter of Washington County-ish, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:Yes, so again, we're county division and we have different names, but we're all here for the same mission. Yes, and I would say, for both shelters here, I mean I don't know that there's truly limits on who they serve. I mean I think that's one great thing about this community is in those two examples, I mean they'll serve. You can come here from any state, it doesn't matter. Oh, I know how great is that. Yeah, it's really good. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1:I think I learned that that day from that survivor. She was not from the state of Arkansas. That's pretty amazing, because that's not true for all shelters but it is for the ones here, both of them, mm-hmm. Did you learn that while you were there or serving on the board, serving for sure at the Northwest Arkansas Women's Shelter and then just being involved with the Peace at Home? So that's standard across the country. No, no, interesting. I did not know that, I know. I think so too. Interesting, I did not know that, I know. I think so too. This community is just great. I know it is. It really is.
Speaker 1:So I think it was a couple years ago, I think it was two years ago, like in September, that I read an article that Benton County and I'm sure somebody will debunk this, and that's completely fine, I do make things up all the time, I own that all. Somebody will debunk this and that's completely fine. I do make things up all the time. I own that all. I own all of it. But I read that Benton County, arkansas, was the most giving per capita a couple years ago, like for one year, totally Whatever, I don't even know. I think we're so blessed to be here I thought, yeah, I hadn't read that but I could totally see that. I mean, how great is that? I'm sure washington county is right up there, so I'm not interested.
Speaker 1:Also a study done about just non-profits per capita and we're like we have a lot of non-profits here. Like when leslie and I started the magazine, I think years ago, doug doug mcmillan asked us like oh, how many are in the two counties? And I think it was like 2700 and it's not anywhere near that today. That also included your 4-Hs and your churches and all the things. But I'm like for two relatively small counties, I agree, like we're not a million population I do think. I think we're like just above a half a million for the two counties and so I'm like to have that many three, we'll just say 3,000 plus at this point.
Speaker 1:Non-profits raising the amount of money that they do on a daily basis is amazing, but I think that's also what's cool about this community too is that once everyone understood that and realized because it was really about, if you think about all those individual non-profits they all were created to based on a need that they wanted to solve. Yeah, and then, as more people became more aware of other people that might be working on a similar issue or the same issue, everybody I think for the most part has been very open to combining, creating code, because it's about the end result eradicating whatever it is that your cause is and so I think that's so cool and that's, I think, one of the reasons why the nonprofit numbers have come down is because more people are pulling resources. Yeah, collaboration over competition. So smart, yes, single parent scholarship fund yes, the one that comes right to my head. That's a great example Combined. But they, I think I don't't know, they all have a lane, and I say this to all of them that I meet I hope all of them go out of business. Yes, they all have to shut the door. Should they get to right? Because there's no need anymore.
Speaker 1:I really feel like it's all about eradicating whatever the particular issue is, and that the goal and goal that's the should be bye to work yourself out of a job. Yes, because you've done such a great job I know your service is no longer needed. To me, that's like real success. Oh, I just like got on the back right. You're like bye, I'm going to the beach, exactly, okay. And then you're a fierce traveler. I love traveling. Just got back, yes. And also, I just want to make everyone mad because you've seen taylor swift twice, so I, it was so fun, I didn't know, gray.
Speaker 1:You're like, and I saw her before the tortured poets department. I know, yes, yes, whatever. And then you're like oh, her boyfriend, whatever his name is, he was there. I'm like my friends that are solid k City cheese fans are going to be really upset with me. They couldn't remember his name, but he was there and so it was cool. She was serenading him and I could not figure out what she was doing. And then finally it dawned on me oh my God, yes, of course, mary Lab makes perfect sense. Now, exactly that one guy that catches the eye. That might be him. I'd love that.
Speaker 1:But you have, I love to live vicariously through your socials, because I'm still in carpool and, um, you are jetting across the pond. That's the right. It wasn't always like that. So you're like you have fabulous friends and you're just eating at fabulous restaurants. Just, I mean not, okay, we love acquiring. Right, we are, yes, we love acquiring. You're also acquiring all these awesome memories, yes, and I love that.
Speaker 1:Like experiences, yes, like all the non-profits that have all the events, um, they're like here's our auction. And I'm like that is so great. What experiences are you bringing to the table? Because I'm like, at this point, I don't want to buy asylum, I want to buy experiences. I agree, that's exactly where I am at, so I live vicariously through all your experiences. I actually bid on one at Kiss a Pig. What's the next day? We went to Rosemary Beach in October, oh, great. But I'm like, yes, this is what it's about. You give money, you help this wonderful cause and you have an experience. Yes, yeah, I'm super excited about it. Also, you're going to need to post it, because if you don't post that, you went to 38, it really happens. Oh, that's so true, that's so true. You just keep going to bed. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:It takes me an hour to create a reel and Ashley she's she's shorter than me, so she can figure it out in like a half hour. I'm like, oh, this is hard. I think it's hard too. So, and it takes me so long, the music just keeps playing on a loop and usually my 14 year old I'm like, oh, I get it done. I work at it. That's just in the. Oh my God, that's so funny. You're an extremely loyal friend. Yes, so I consider friends, my family. I know I put you in that ram too, ramly Rambling. Yeah, so I love it and I think that that's like pretty cool for anyone like you can create your own I don't know you can't your own circle. Yeah, exactly speaking of that, I went to see new kids on the block.
Speaker 1:I missed it and your friend was in line with me. So, oh, I saw the picture with Gusty. I saw the picture. Yeah, so Michelle and I are standing there. So she bought these meet and greet tickets. Okay, and you had to get there. What felt like the crack of dawn, not really, it was like three o'clock, but that's really early if that was very early. A long time to be at the ants and we had to form a group with six or eight people in order I think it was six to go into the meet and greet.
Speaker 1:Okay, so everyone's like standing outside the amp trying to form their groups, with all kinds of random numbers of people showing up. Okay, we're just two. Michelle's like running this. So I just kind of stood back and she's like are y'all two? And you're two, okay, great, we're now a group.
Speaker 1:And Misty goes are you Casey, are you Tina's friend? But she had sunglasses on and I just couldn't tell who it was. That's so funny. Yeah, she told me who she was. I was like, oh my god, I met you at Tina's birthday party. That is so funny. And like small world. Who does this? You're kind of like a little Kevin Bacon. No, yes, that would be more you. No, but I'm like, how great is this? And then, oh, and she was with her friend casey. Yes, I think that's right, yes, that's true. And so then we compared spellings on our name and if we're called cassie and how there's no ass in our name. So we were like all fast friends right there immediately. That would definitely like fast track. That, yeah, it's the circle of Tina. I love this. That's funny, okay.
Speaker 1:And then you're an extreme dot connector, which you already said. Because if you do say, no, I wish that was a job, because I would be a connector A hundred percent. I get so much like energy and love out of like being somebody say, oh, I'm working on this, I kind of need to figure this out. Oh, I don't even want to let me connect you with so-and-so. That is like, yeah, I don't need anything, but I would love for that. Be fast friends and hug on each other. Yes, exactly, but I feel like you're a connector as well. I think we're surrounded by a lot of connect. I don't. I love it. Nice, yeah, but you already said that. Um, you alluded to it. Like, if you don't 100 say yes to to a nonprofit, I'll say that because, even though you might say no, it's not a zero. Your no was never a zero. No, right, you're like no, but I will connect you with somebody who I think has the skill set that you're looking for. Yeah, exactly, exactly, I do too. Okay, so fierce friend, and that definitely goes with loyal friend. I love that.
Speaker 1:Oh, and we already touched on this Extreme fashionista to where I bet people today who meet you today don't know that you founded, co-founded. She said yes, with my best friend, brandy, who's in Texas. Now, yeah, she's in Houston. She is living her best life. She's, yes, she's killing it. She's so cute. She is living her best life. She's yes, she's killing it. She's so cute. She is like the most precious soul. Yeah, yeah, yeah, back in the day, and that still exists today, of course not under completely new ownership, but it is nice to be able to drive by and see that and know that it still exists. It's cool, so small world.
Speaker 1:I was living. Well, I was in Tulsa, this was pre-06, so when did I? I want to say, you started it in before, ish, I think, go for, okay. And uh, the girl, a girlfriend in the office next to me. So I worked for a local magazine over there, a monthly publication called Tulsa People Magazine, and I don't know if I've ever even told you this story. So my girlfriend next to me and in the desk in the office next to me was getting married and all of a sudden, these ads showed up. First she said, yes, in Tulsa people were they advertising beer wing? Yes, okay, that was like our, okay, it was a huge deal. And I'm like, what are these ads? And they were this is just, I don't know, journalism nerd, something. But they were like one-third squares is what I can picture them as advertising Vera Wang. And I'm not.
Speaker 1:I don't know if she came over for a fitting or not, I really can't or a shop, whatever, I don't remember. But she was like, yeah, this store in Rogers. It was in Rogers. I feel like, right, okay, and Rogers is carrying these Vera Wangs. And this was before I was even slated to move here and I was like what? My husband was living here but we weren't married, but he was living here, working and driving back and forth and I'm like, well, this is what. There's a store in a small town, in argansand, because I'd only probably ever heard of bettenville because of walmart, but didn't know what bettenville was. Yes, and then little rock, and I'm like there's this store that's carrying fear wang. To me that was like the creme de la creme. I couldn't agree more and that's exactly how we set it up. Yeah, yeah, and I was like this is so wild. And then I feel like I don't know if Tulsa people did a story, or if Celebrate or Cityscape somebody did a story.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you had blonde hair. Yes, I'd like to actually, I think, go back to blonde hair. Oh, that's an yeah, okay, we didn't touch on that because that would be an odd bullet point, but you have had multiple hair conures in all the years I've known you and you carry them all off of, basically like, wow, you're like, oh, I think I should go back. Tomorrow is my hair day, so maybe I should talk to Paula. We should just do it. But you had blonde hair, short blonde hair. Now, that is the only time I've had very short hair, but it was short, but it was so fun, I loved it. Well, tell me how that like give me a little like 10 second version of how she said yes, came to be. Were you ready, just like having a glass of wine? Yes, with a.
Speaker 1:And we had a lot of friends that were getting married and we always had to travel other places to find dresses. Oh, there wasn't really a dress store here. Ish, ish, Uh-huh. And so it ultimately ended up where Brady and I like brainstormed and we said we're going to do it. So we worked with the U of A, but it was a side hustle. It was Right, it was Because you both had real jobs yeah, because I've had real jobs okay, both working in the supplier world.
Speaker 1:And we worked with the U of A and the chamber and we built out our business plan and kind of ran with it and it was. It was amazing, it was cool. So did you physically work there? Yes, okay, on, yes, nights and weekends. So, yes, and was it as fun and glamorous as you wanted it to be. Uh, it was because it was so hard. Yeah, it was, so it was so hard, definitely tested. Um, our friendship and I'm glad that our friendship is is amazing and I love seeing her live her best life in Houston and that whole transition has been wonderful and I've learned so much through this process. But it was hard, yeah, it was hard, but where the dress is fun, oh, my god, so that's so fun. And going to fashion week, yeah, like, yeah, fashion week, yes, at Barcelona and New York, and yes, it was amazing. Yeah, so there were aspects of it that were most certainly glamorous.
Speaker 1:I do think, probably we're building out the business plan. We actually really believe the whole thing would be a surprise. It was like, oh, oh, oh, there's wow, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of work here, like these things don't just happen, okay, somebody doesn't just, yeah, I am the at department, exactly exactly all of that. The power button is, um, yes, yeah, how long were you involved? This is a great question. I think four years, okay, yeah, yeah, and it's from inception to yeah, yeah, and it's still around, so it's great. How long was that? It is cool, that's really cool and I feel like it's always been in Rogers. It's moved locations, yep, a couple of times, or just once. That owns it today. Yeah, yeah, which I think is because you and Brandy are like family, oh my God. Yes, yes, I think it's only natural, like my sister, so it made perfect sense. Yeah, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1:How fun it was Fine. Okay, what did I not? You have 20 pages of notes. Somehow I like to be I would say I'm an introvert, and so I have to go into situations having a little bit of planned. So I did come with probably there's really 20 pages here, and I actually we're friends, and so I'm not really sure why. I thought you were going to ask me hard-hitting questions that I couldn't answer on the fly, color code, and I must say I needed these notes, but I also I didn't want to, like you know, let you down. I want to make sure that we had everything covered, but you could not let me. You know, like we've covered everything. This is fun. It is kind of fun, right, yes, to just talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what I have enjoyed most about the podcast is every single one of them, except for the narcissistic one that I did on myself is that I'm constantly learning. Yes, I prepare 75%, I don't prepare 100. Because that's just not really who I am. And so I go in and I always put my foot in my mouth and I'm okay with that, because I'm authentically learning every time someone says something and I love that. I love that. I think we can learn from that, because I know that's a good lesson for me and that's something nice to hear, because sometimes I feel like, especially as women, we think we've got to be completely buttoned up 100%. So it's nice to see that you're saying that that 75% is great, and then you just kind of go with the flow.
Speaker 1:Let's be real, when I see people speak and you included at NextUp or I don't know, chamber events or galas or whatever I am always so envious of those professional speakers and Polly's envious too. You sound amazing, you know exactly what's happening and I'm over here, like I love a microphone. Y'all are gonna have to pray for my little dead hands. I can't know nothing good is coming out. I love a good mic. So, like hello, it's so funny, it's like a push pull.
Speaker 1:I think it's like you said, you're an introvert. Yes, and one of my other dear friends said he is an extroverted introvert. He is truly an introvert, but he has to be extroverted for work. I think that's probably as well, a hundred percent. I think you and I have talked about this and I'm like I can go out and pageant wave. You can too, and I truly I'm not always there to do the wave I'm really there to connect. I promise you and hug you, yes, and give you my all, even if I can only do a drive-by. But I am real happy to go get on the sofa, yes, but I feel like you need that, or at least I know I do. I need that downtime to recharge to be able to go do that again. The sofa battery gets real loud In the fourth quarter, yes, and pretty much by the time Charity Ball is done and over with, I'm like I can't people anymore.
Speaker 1:I know, but I need to, and I just got the invitation for Charity Ball. Oh, and it's the same today. It's so beautiful, it's so cute and I love that Hallmark does that. I think it's Dayspring. Oh, is it Dayspring? Yes, okay, but they're the same. They're not the same, but they are right. I love that. I think Hallmark owns Dayspring. I think you're right. Yeah, so it must have been the Dayspring logo that I saw, but I just think that's so cool. It's Kathleen over at Dayspring. You know Kathleen, love her. Yeah, she's on that show, yes, so, yes, she spearheads that for Marcy, which I love. I think that's really cool, I know, isn't that neat.
Speaker 1:She's also somebody to follow on social. She does a lot of fun stuff, does she? Yes, okay, I see her on and about, but I don't think we're social people. I don't. Social thing is weird to me. I don't even mean it that way.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm still 9,000 and love Facebook, and Instagram is like my fun space where I like, follow, like, I think, famous people and I are friends, but literally obviously I am best friends with Taylor and Travis on Instagram, but Facebook is where I find out what all the old people like me are doing, and I love someone's like oh, I never open up Facebook and I'm like, and I love someone's like oh, I never opened up Facebook and I'm like that was kind of my first go-to. That's where you get the information and Instagram is where you get to see the picture. I love all the fun on Instagram, but I still need to know about certain events. I agree, I do both and I'm like, oh, let's just. But I did notice in Amsterdam, like a couple weeks ago, I posted on instagram and I love that it'll share over, so that's great. Yes, the other day I was looking I had all these like messages on facebook like, oh my god, are you here?
Speaker 1:You should connect with my brother. I missed it all, like I'm not opening facebook exactly, and so then I came back. It's like oh my gosh, I missed all these like great recommendations, these great opportunities. Connect with people. Go be old. I didn't see any of it. Go be old with me.
Speaker 1:So ashley loves her facebook too and she's a million younger, million years younger than me and she wants and I hope she listens to it. She probably is an old soul, but she's beautiful 100, she's a nice. Totally see that. She's like oh, I gotta go throw my pictures before I post. I gotta weed it down before I like create the synopsis and the paragraphs and the periods and the punctuation. I'm like just post it.
Speaker 1:That's what I think I love about stories is that you can just post. Oh, totally, you know what I mean and you don't have to come up with any verbiage. Right here I am and you're welcome. Exactly the arch, exactly, arch, exactly, exactly. No question. Yes, I love it. That's a good spot to end on, because you love Ashley. We love social media. Yes, I still love Facebook. I know that's weird, but they're all by the same company, so it's not like I'm choosing. No, and I love Instagram stories. They're fun to watch. I'm a horrible poster, but that's Same, same. Same or no? You're not.
Speaker 1:I do a lot in stories, but for that reason I don't have to put a lot of thought to it. Like I can't do what Ashley does, where she sits down and tries to oh, here's all my pictures, but it parallels. What story can I tell? Yeah, like I want to do that. Yeah, but then it's paralyzing to think through. No, I can't even get to the story. But at night, just looking, watching people's stories just absolutely cool. Yeah, do you get stuck on rails? Yes, oh yes, that is a rabbit hole I can never get out of, to where I won't even let myself open it. 90, yeah, it's. I'm like, well, they're going an hour. I'll never get back. I know it's fast, how, or it's wondering how fast time goes, but I love that.
Speaker 1:It makes me laugh more than anything, because it's what I would just watch, like mindless dumb, like people scaring people yeah, jumping out, oh my gosh tripping and falling. Yeah, I'm like. So I'm like this is good, I just created a laughter and now let's go to bed. I feel like it's all about laughter and connection, like the rules, is all about the laughter. And then the stories. I feel connected stories is, but then I always feel weird because I run into somebody like, oh my god, I saw you, or nothing. They're thinking psycho, do that. Yes, nothing better to do it, to like this singular person and go down this rabbit hole, salute and I see them, I know more about them, and they do like it's like I know.
Speaker 1:Every time it comes out of my mouth, I'm like why did I say that? Why didn't I just say like, if I did, you found her and be like, oh my god, yay, you presenting at Walmart or Swimwear. She'd be like, oh my God, yay you for staying at Walmart or Swimwear. She'd be like I go. Well, she thinks she knows you, so you should be friends. Yay, we will be friends. That's hilarious. So I'm like, yeah, I'm like, oh, they were at wherever last night. That's so psychotic.
Speaker 1:You know, with Lexi, though one of my biggest pet peeves is that she does really well in stories and posting, but she won't say where she is, and so I'll look at a story and I'll be like, oh my God, that looks amazing, but I have to take the time to ask where she is. Why can't she just tell us? I'm a Blake Street, I'm at. Is that for safety? Is she like being a really conscious person? I never thought about that, so maybe I should walk that back, but I don't know. I want to know where she had that amazing drink or where she had that amazing meal. Like, I want to know this stuff.
Speaker 1:Do you have Snapchat? And she doesn't. No, she doesn't. Okay, of course she does. Yeah, she does.
Speaker 1:So my 14-year-old Snapchat. I have Snapchat because I'm like a super awesome mom that can't parent social media, apparently. And he's like, oh, and he figured out how to turn off his permission controls and I turn that off. And I got snapchat and I'm like, um, I feel like that was a conversation. Like I need you to turn off. No, no, like location, this is what I've heard. You got to turn off location. He's like, well then, people can't find me and I'm like that's the best guy, but he like so-and-so's at the pool, so-and-so's here. No one knows where I am and I'm like we're gonna keep it that way for now, but yeah, so that's something maybe you can look up for an mediation. Yeah, maybe it's chat and a protection program of some sort. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I'm always like wanting to know where these fabulous, where these fabulous places are. Then I have to ask every single time. I should just like type it somewhere and then copy and paste every time where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Because you think you know by now. Yeah, so like, just send it to you personally.
Speaker 1:Yes, she should have spent mom. Also, I would start rolling if I was watching that on stories. Mom, this is right. Oh, why do you know? I don't. I think she started. This is for my mom.
Speaker 1:Yes, that could be her, exactly, exactly, because it's yeah, yeah, flip. What we just want to know. Yeah, I just want to know. I want to go out that drink. Yeah, exactly, share, share the wealth, that's exactly. Well, yeah, as members. Only, I don't know, I mean, I guess that would be true for blake street. Well, it could be. Yeah, I don't know, we got ways to get in, it's fine, okay. Well, that was good. You shared your wealth of being. I love that.
Speaker 1:This was so fun. Know, I really appreciate you reaching out or no, I reached out, but I appreciate you working with me on schedule so we could get it done. This was so fun. This was like just having that conversation Self-digest, it was like ADHD. Great, thank you for having me. Thank you, thank you for coming prepared. I know you know what they say. I know Not. I know not at all. You never once looked at it and I know right now you're like I love that. Okay, tina, with Con Air, but also my fabulous friend, thank you, thank you, appreciate it. Thank you for staying with us. I say it every time, so I'll continue to say it. Maybe that's my new closing, but if you've hung with us this long, I'm super grateful for you. And catch us next time on the 3W.